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Joe Stoltz

Drinking in the Fire House

Last week I went to lunch with some co-workers (non-FFs) and the discussion rolled around to my involvement with the FD. One of the guys said "well, you must have guys that just join the department for the drinking". This recalled to mind another comment by someone, some years back, who swore that ALL volunteer FFs drank at the station and "those who say they don't are lying".


In my department you might find a 6-pack or two if you look in every nook and cranny, but we really don't touch the stuff on drill night or after calls, or meetings. There just isn't stuff to touch. In the late 80s we had the converted soda machine that dispensed several brands of beer but we got rid of it because the Jr. FFs were becoming interested in the stuff.

So - what is your department policy or practice regarding alcohol in the firehouse?

NOTE: 2/10/08 - There may be small gaps in the discussion here and there, due to technical difficulties that arose. The new theme is, what steps can we take to make America's fire houses 100% dry?

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Umm, he was associated with brewers because as a Roman officer, his pitcher was filled with his mandated ration of BEER. Why would he be the patron saint of brewers if it was filled with water? I think you're confusing him with Saint Evian LOL

Siren

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It looks like beer to me in the picture of the pitcher.

St. Nicholas is also listed as the Patron Saint of Brewers, Bakers, Chimney Sweeps and Pawnbrokers

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See - Patron saint of guys who have to have second jobs :o)

Siren

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LoL

GM

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G Man:
What I think you are seeing is actually the first recorded case of drug testing.
It is clear to me that St. Florian is holding up his urine sample and judging by his smile, he PASSED!
This date in history...
TCSS.
Art

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we dont allow it in the station now if you happen to have some in your ice chest from the previous weekend thats ok but it is not to be sonsumed on the premisis there is another department in the area however that has several cases (yes i said cases) on hand. In fact they actually order it from a vendor they get so much of it. Personally i dont think alcohol has any place in the fire service. In this job we need to be 110% aware of our surroundings whenth tones go off and if you have been drinking and respond to a call then you are putting yourself and others in danger. If you have it in your station what kind of message is that sending to the public? We are supposed to be role models. Im not saying Ive never had a drink but I can say that I have never responded to a call after drinking heavily. If I have a just a few drinks (2 or 3 all day or night) then I wait a minimun of 2 hours before even thinking about responding.

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Our house is 100% dry. No alcohol within 8 hours of your showing up to a call or to your regular shift.

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Well, our policy is that our "bar" remains closed until AFTER ALL drills, calls, etc. have been completed and cleared. I am a member of our Backroom Committee and no alcohol gets served from the locked fridge until everything is completed and cleared by one of the officer's. I'm only 18 so I can't legally drink and I don't drink at the firehouse at all. It's different drinking at my own house when my parents are aware of it, but I will never drink at my firehouse until I'm at least 21. Even then I might drink little to no alcohol because I wouldn't trust myself if I ever drove. If I ever did get real bad, I would probably just crash at the firehouse for a while.

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Drinking is prohibited at the fire house due to the fact were owned by township.

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There are only 3 nights that drinking is allowed at any of our FD functions. First is our Kansas Homecoming (a 2 night festival), after the beer tent is closed and all the patrons have left, we get to finish off the kegs!! Other depts are on alert for us at that time. Some ffers don't indulge, so they would respond if we got a call.. Second is our Reverse Raffle, it is an off site event. For the most part we all drink soda (because it's free!! and we all have to drive home...). Third is our Christmas Party, again, off site.
If anyone has had any alcohol in the recent few hours (or are still under the effects) they are not permitted to respond.
Luckily as far as drinking goes, our department has only had one ffer that had a drinking problem, luckily he knew not to come to the station, and has since stopped drinking..

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I feel that if there is Alcohol that it would alter the FireFighters decisions. This might injury or kill the FireFighter or one of their own. Alcohol and Saving lives don't mix.

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No alcohol in the houses and 12 hours bottle to throttle for volunteers and returning shift personnel, is our policy. Random testing is in our sog's along with any driver involved in an injury accident is subject to testing. Pagers off and no department shirts, jackets or hats when in a bar in our district. Does everyone comply, probably not, but if found out, penality is sever. The public has placed their trust in us to provide service when requested, and have entrusted with the money to provide the resources to provide those services. We respond when someone is having a bad day, we have to provide the best service possible and responding drunk is not the way. If all brothers and sisters possess the honor they should it would not happen. Everyone goes home!

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