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Training With CAFS.
In Berks County PA we have a fairly new burn building at our county training center. Overall it is a good facility. We can train on any thing at the facility with the exception of CAFS which is what we utilize to fight fire. While structural burns at the facility are top notch and they allow my guys to get the idea it is different when using CAFS compared to straight water.
I am a firm believer that you play like you practice and unfortunately we don't get to train as often with our own methods as much as I think we should. What I am looking for is some advice or ideas on how to remedy this training deficiency. Does anyone know of any training facilities that allow the use of CAFS in their burn building in the southeastern PA area?
I am a firm believer that you play like you practice and unfortunately we don't get to train as often with our own methods as much as I think we should. What I am looking for is some advice or ideas on how to remedy this training deficiency. Does anyone know of any training facilities that allow the use of CAFS in their burn building in the southeastern PA area?
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Permalink Reply by Chris Miller on -
What is the reason that you cannot use CAFs?
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Permalink Reply by Tim on -
We dont have the system on our engines have are looking into adding it. Also going through a merger with another department and they have cafs on there apparatus.
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Permalink Reply by Tim on
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Just wondering how you like using the CAFS system. I dont know anything about it and what ive heard is you have to keep the line straight any kinks and you lose dramatic pressure. Can you enlighten me on this. Thanks.
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Permalink Reply by matt halmasy on -
We use Cafs system in our department and to avoid this problem we use a special hose that will not kink . The CAFS system is very good. The hose is very light compared to one charged with water which makes interior attack less demanding on the firefighters making entry. The knock down is very quick with less water damage because of the small amount needed. We are a rural department and have to rely on tankers to supply water so this is very important to us. CAFS does not have the same cooling effects as water so using it to reduce compartment temps to reduce flashover is not very effective. Some departments won't use CAFS as the initial attack line because of this. 2 firefighters in europe were killed because of this. This is the only major down side to CAFS that i'm aware of.
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Permalink Reply by Holly on -
I'm still fairly new to the fire service and was hoping thet you could please explain the CAFS to me.
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Permalink Reply by Josh Sullivan on -
Areyou using a Cafs pumper/engine or are you using a Cafs skid unit? In my dept we use 6 different cafs unit 4 american fire and 2 Row industries skid units. Mostly used for brush fires, but on the up side we use ours on just about anything. Normally the unit uses class a foam but we have retrofitted them to use class b 1/3 for any petro fires. The 2 Row units have a 100 gmp pump on them and have been used on entry into a structure fire with very affective results. And structure protection durring a fast moving wild fire. With being a cafs unit on brush fires your water basically expands 10-1 with your water flow, short terms it stretches your water to last longer. If you have any questions i would be happy to help all that i can
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