Daytime Staffing

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Permalink Reply by Robert Stomber on April 27, 2009 at 9:58pm

Just last year we want to district alarm during the day to get more people to show up. Even with 3 to 4 fire departments being called we might get two to three engines showing up with two or three people on them. Thank to our other fire districts that come to our aid when we need them. Even at night we are starting to have prombles so up.

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Permalink Reply by chris r brannon on May 20, 2009 at 1:29pm

the area that i live it we have 13 vol depts we have really good response time

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Permalink Reply by strtcopr on May 20, 2009 at 4:26pm

Our town and the adjoining town(dispatched from our central dispatch) is ''served'' by seven(7) all volunteer departments of varying strength,training,resources and ability all get the same daytime assignment now, which is :
Full Assignment from home company and next due department
One engine from the appropriate third due department (minimum of 1 Operator and 2 Interior FF's
Tanker from one of the departments in the aforementioned adjoining town
Radio Coordinator- a Past Chief elected by the local Chief's Association who responds to assist the IC or assists at dispatch in the event there is no second dispatcher on duty.

This protocol is implemented 7 days a week from the hours of 0600-1800 hrs.It is utilized for reported structure fires, odors/smoke in structures,appliance fires in structures or outside fires within 20' of a structure.

It is not used for Carbon Monoxide runs or Automatic alarm activations.

Additionally, my department's run cards call for a ladder truck and a FAST to be dispatched to all possible and confirmed jobs.

Full Assigment protocols can vary greatly as most departments have 2 engines, a rescue of some sort and an ambulance. Response varies on time of day and manpower.

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Permalink Reply by Eddie Rogers on June 7, 2009 at 5:33am

Were really fortunate, our chief, assistant chief, and 3-4 ff's work at a large factory about 2 miles from the station. Myself and 2 other guys work a swing shift so 2 weeks of days and 2 weeks of night for us. If were working nights we all can staff 2 engines within 8 mins of page. Sometimes we get lucky and have guys on vacation too :) mutual aid cannot be overlooked no matter how strong or weak daytime response is. Auto aid is your best friend you can always downgrade if the situation is not as serious as first thought.

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Permalink Reply by Becky on June 14, 2009 at 7:23pm

We don't usually have a big issue with this, especially during the summer. In the summer, we have 2 more people that are free 24/7 to staff. And several other members work for the local ambulance company, so they have goofy hours. We do however have 1 paid guy on at all times. So response time is minimal, about 1-2 minutes from the paid part of the department. If there are volunteers staffing, which there usually is, they respond with the the paid guy on the engine. It is usually about a 3-4 minute response from an officer. But we could easily rustle up enough guys in about 10 minutes.
During the day, I believe we have one mutual aid company on almost everything, so that helps too.

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Permalink Reply by Kathy Appleby on June 17, 2009 at 12:41am

our daytime staffing sucks. we do have a paid medic 24/7, but its still hard to get the rest of the department out. i work nights so most times its myself (emt) and the driver, or at times its act been just me and the driver on the engine ( and i was even a probie at the time) we almost always tone out for additional help from our department

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Permalink Reply by Chief Dino on June 19, 2009 at 6:17pm

We have 3-4 guys that can respond during the day, but the majority of us either can't leave work or work too far away for it to be feasable to respond. Our SOP for a working structure fire is to immediately tone out mutual aid from a neighboring department (closest is 14 miles). We have a real good relationship with the county sheriff dispatch and they don't wait for us to request it they automatically tone out mutual aid. If we get there and don't need them we can turn them around.

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Permalink Reply by roncofireman on June 27, 2009 at 10:39am

for our department, we can pull different amounts of people for alarms during the day.
Sometimes we could have a crew of say 14 or 15, and then other times we have a crew of 4 or 5.
At our department we have juniors like me that are pretty much around all the time, so some of the time it is just ther engineer, one other fireman, and 2 or 3 juniors. So what we usually do is call a mutual aid company, as well as tone out for additional man power from our station. Talking to out cheif and or asst. cheif, they are so glad that they have juniors, personally, i have made most of the calls. Our department has had 56 calls this year and i have made 33 of them.

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Permalink Reply by Justin on July 13, 2009 at 10:22pm

our daytime staffing really sucks. for ems calls we very seldom get an 1st responder or emt, only is one happens to be off from work that day. as for fire calls we might get a crew of 4 if were lucky (and depending on the type of call) allthought there have been times when its been just me and a probie show up for a possible structure.... lets just say we went pov.

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Permalink Reply by Jeff Gaudio on August 2, 2009 at 6:01pm

We're hurting during the day...bad.

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Permalink Reply by Holly on August 3, 2009 at 2:59am

We have to stations in our township plus to more from the area which are toned out automatically on daylight calls. With all four responding we do pretty well. Quite a few work in the area and are able to respond quickly

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Permalink Reply by Stephen on August 3, 2009 at 3:42am

our brigade struggles for drivers on daytime calls, if there where a house fire we could get anything from 1-2 people to 6 or 7 and if we're lucky a driver will turn out. otherwise we just can't respond. a standard response is Primary brigade response what it can and a support brigade response one vehicle unless otherwise advised. there are certain buildings and schools factories etc... that may have a third brigade response as standard. but mainly it's 2 brigades, if more are needed the OIC asks. if no brigade responds in 6 minutes two additional brigades are responded.

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