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What do you think of a Chief that won't let anyone below him drive a pumper, ladder truck or rescue squad? We are talking from Assit Chief on down?
We have career personnel of consiting of career officer and three firefighters around the clock. If they take a unit on a call no one else can drive another unit unless its a ambulance or smaller unit, so a backup pumper or the other units sit.
The chief is the only volunteer that drive those units, but he is always in his chief's vehicle if a call comes in.

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He should be trainning others on driving So it's one thing he hasn't have to worry about I thank chief or Asst. Chiefs should get to the loc. of the call to size it up, BUT if they are haveing probloms gitting trucks out they should makesure it's gitting out.

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well if there is qualified firefighters, which i'm sure there are, the volunteers at your station should be able to. they are as much a firefighter as the career ff's.

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One thing I do know is that Chief's including Assit, Deputy and captains according to bylaws and SOPs have to have class a or b drivers license and the required classes to be in elected to those positions and be a driver. Anyone else if they want to be a driver of a pumper, truck or squad have to go through a county driving class, take a county or state classes in pumps, truck ops and heavy rescue classes to drive those vehicles and then have to be evaluated to be a driver.
Most stations around us have regular drivers like we did years ago but we have been stifled by our chief for drivers.
If we have a big fire we just wait for a transfered company to come in and fillin and hope members can ride with them or take the ambulance and smaller units if its our first due. If its not our first due we don't go and the fillin goes.

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There is nothing wrong with having to take training courses in driving emergency vehicles. Having proper training and the proper licence is critical. Those who take the training and are capable...qualified..to drive the apparatus should be obligated to run the rig when the rig needs to be run... not having to wait for someone who the " chief????????? " feels is more qualified to do so. CHIEF.. If you read this.. SHAME ON YOU!
smarten your (_!_) up!!!

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this is so crazy i have never would belive anyone would be crazy like this. what does the members on the deparment think about this? does the members know were tools are on the truck or are they running around with their heads cut off? i think you should be on the dept. for a few months and put in training hours and know how to pump the truck before you drive it.

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I can tell you. Any oppsition that would be there disappeared over the years and what members are there dares to not challenge.

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If this is a combined dept then i would start with the chain of command to include the city council with your complaints and worries, when this goes unanswered then I would leave the dept and the community since it is obvious that the chief officers don't care if they have the back up that most depts would love to have. If it is in the bylaws that you have a CDL and the dept doesn't want to help you get it then it makes me wander if they even want to train you?!

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Just to let you know the president and BOD have said that we get those that can drive turn over to drive or the chief will be suspended from operations

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thats BS, if you have EVOC and trained then roll them, seems to me you need to vote his ass out!

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I agree.

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As a Chief , i can tell you guy is out in left feild , you need to get the trucks to the clls no matter , as long as their is a policy and they are trainied get the damm truck to the call.

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This makes absolutely no sense to me. So long as other members have the training and (if required) documented hours driving the truck then there is no reason he shouldn't allow it.

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