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Hey girls, glad to have a meeting place where we can discuss and share. So I thought that I would get more trouble from the old timers when I joined, but they've been very mature and nice. It has been the young guys that got on after me that seem to be all full of attitude. I am only the 2nd female to be on the dept in their 125 year history. I am wondering if you all have any tips for me? I always feel like I have to work 200% harder than the other guys because I will always be under scrutiny. I do want to move towards a higher position and a leadership position but I am unsure how to do that when many times, I feel like the equal oppurtunity mascot who no one takes seriously. Many times I feel coddled and like the higher ups see me as more of a risk than an assett to the organization. I feel that I would have alot to bring if any one would let me. Maybe some of you more experienced ladies can weigh in on this? I know that I can't be the only person going through this. Thanks

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this has been a great source of comfort and understanding for me.
I have decided that I won't let this get me down in a hole. I'm way stronger and smarter than how I have been acting lately. Instead of asking for a transfer, I'm going to stop running away from it and just be myself around the guy and so far it has been working... And you are RIGHT guys usually never think in the complicated ways that we do. I'm starting to think that his reasons for 'not speaking to me' could be something as simple as intimidation, unsure of how to approach me, or just keeping his distance because he may be attracted to me, who knows... being a female gets annoying sometimes. I overcomplicate a lot of things... I feel like I need to, but maybe all that crap I dig into really is a waste of time. Agh.

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Meg,
I hear you loud and clear. I too was the 2nd female in my company and dept. and I have seen women come and go from dept for various reasons. I have been a member in my company and dept for the past 22 years and I was the first female officer in my company and my dept. While being 2nd though the first female spent most of her time in school so I kind of felt first and the old timers would mixes us up all time and it didnt help that we both looked alot alike. Don't work harder work smarter this business is not all muscle you need to use more of your brain. As far the younger guys they are inexperienced and think they are immortal dont worry that will change you will just need to give it time. As for moving up in the organization take as many classes as you can get your hands on and attend ever function that your dept puts on ie drills, clean ups, fundraisers and meetings. All you can do is your fair share and the us will fall into place. Good luck.

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