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Whats For Training Doc?!?!?!?!?
Just a thought I have running rampid so why not share it. Glenmoor is always open for training with other departments people what ever the case maybe so here is my thought.. I wanted to start a thread here to see what ever things. List a training you have that you think others would like to have or par-take in. if people come great if not then no biggie its business as usual. i know sometimes it hard to throw someone in but why not get to where we can all work a little better with each other. There have been a lot of great classes this year and more to come.. but why do we only intermingle when its a big training. why not the little ones as well. so if anyone has any ideas throw it out here. if there is something someone would like to train on perhaps another department is better suited for that and can offer to join..
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Permalink Reply by Big City LT Max L. on -
Lot of good points are made here. and Kenny if we are getting some where forward i dont give a f*ck who takes over the forum topic lol.. i see the how can we better another if we are not perfect ourself.. well here is my thought see what every one else thinks. back in the day we stayed to ourselves and trained. we kicked as and we had a good rep. not saying we where or are the best but we was very good and everyone respected what we did. I know me and someone else had, had this talk and it made me think. special when the other person i talked to brought it up. for the longest time i would be somewhere and watch someone working on scene and think WTF are they doing those idiots.. as it went on wasnt so much they where idiots it was we where stuck in the 1990's. by getting out with each other who says the back yard your cleaning up doesnt end up being our own???
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Permalink Reply by Kevin Cibula on -
I like the idea of training with other depts. no matter how big or small. We have a few guys that like to train. The problem is we get the info on training to late. If we could get some way of advanced notice 1-2 months I think more people would get involved ( atleast in our case).
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Permalink Reply by verno on -
Well my friend, I know for a fact that all the classes in the county from the county fire school on May 2nd until the present date, there has been atleast 2 months if not more advanced time to sign up. So you might want to talk to your training officer, because there be a lack of communication at your dept. when it comes to outside training classes.
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Permalink Reply by dday on -
As for the training notification. The County Fire School was brought up in Jan and sent out in Feb. I know everything has been sent in the mail.
And I know all the classes Willie sets up are set up with ample time to get in the classes. Check your County FF Assoc monthly news letter. It has all the information about classes in the county. And the county meetings have all of this training brought up almost every month during the meeting as a reminder...
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Permalink Reply by Darren Dodson on -
Got a training opportunity via email today that sounds pretty decent. I know you guys are itching for different types of training. This training is offered, free of charge, by the Domestic Preparedness Equipment Training Assistance Program (DPETAP). DPETAP was developed in partnership with the FEMA National Preparedness Directorate and the U.S. Army's Pine Bluff Arsenal, the DOD's center of expertise for chemical and biological defensive equipment production and support. They currently offer more than 46 courses and exercises that range from 1 hour to 24 hours in length. I will bring the information to the county firefighters meeting tomorrow. The catalog is 35+ pages, so I will highlight the areas of importance and give them to Derek. I would ask that if this is something the firefighters want, then they need to decide (fairly quick) as I would need to begin coordination on this ASAP. Also, their are minimum class requirements, so pre-registration will certainly be a must. A great opportunity that we should take advantage of.
Darren
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Permalink Reply by dday on
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For those who say what we are doing is complaining on here beacuse lack of change in the fire service etc.etc.etc. WTF??? First of all type your concerns and we will discuss them. And what? Lets go back to the old way of brushing things under the rug...??? That requires a major WTF... Lets see here.For example, a few years ago we would do dumb stuff at fires and take a gamble on will people make it out or will something happen to them or should they be in there. Umm hello The fire service has changed if no one has noticed. For those who say there is no brotherhood now you have really lit a fire under my ass... For starters the ones bitching about brotherhood and lack there of, are the ones who fight tooth and nail against change in this business. You know doing a walk around and taking the extra time to do a size up thats right I said size up could be the deciding factor on going interrior or exterrior. You know a proper size up can save lives. I hear people say thats dumb and takes to much time. What? so it is ok to be a dumbass and pull up on scene and NOT do a size up, pull a line, make entry into a fire and bam you and your crew are involved in a collapse situation because you didn't take the time to do a walk around. If you would have walked around the structure to do a 360 you would have seen the back half of the house was starting to fall in... Then someone has to go explain to someone why and how this happened. Which would equal lack of training? Lack of discipline? Someone chime in if they have a better answer.
A little bit of training can go a long way.You know FF Survival & RIT are going to be pushed hard in the future I feel on top of all the other training we must keep up on as well. But why should we learn and or change our training methods? Because FF X doesn't want to jeporadize the brotherhood with his buddies so he/she will not go against the grain and adapt to the new changes? Considering most of these people can't even perform basic FF skills in a timely manner. But that is ok. Because at the end of the fire call or training night of sitting on the truck talking how the good ole days of knocking fires with the little red booster line was da bomb FF X & S & D are still buddies and the brotherhood is still there and intact.
The way I look at it. Brotherhood is keeping your people up to date with new training methods. Pre Plans everything I wrote a few posts ago which I am not going to retype. Keeping everyone up to date and keeping them motivated to change with the times is what we all should be doing. The new training methods basic skills and requirements of todays fire service should be everyones priority...
In closing, if you think quote unquote typing and discussing new changes in the fire service is complaining because people don't like the change and it is ruining the brotherhood image F-YOU take a hike and go to bingo on Fridays.
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Permalink Reply by Kevin Cibula on
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First off I didnt write that to stir the pot. I know a few times we get some training info and its late whatever the reason, noone putting on the training is to blame lets make that clear!!! My hat is off to the few that are trying to get this going, great job. If at all possible if an email could be sent to myself or Todd on the training so those of us that like to train will have the info early enough. It would be appreciated.
As far as the post DDay just wrote that im looking at about change and so on. Now I can go on for hours about that. Waist of time. We are having the same problems, older guys just wont let go of the past and so on. Now you see why we dont get the training info in a timely manner. This county is making some great progress for change, but we are always going to behind in where we need to be because the voice of change in departments isnt strong enough.( not all, but most). until the dead weight do nothings bitch about everythings get the hell out it will always be the same. With some luck and time all of us that want change and want to adapt to everyday fire service changes will eventually win out. Oh hell im done bitching for the night.
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Permalink Reply by dday on
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I will send you a message later and get your email address... Nice post. Nice to see others starting to speak up.
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Permalink Reply by Chip Roush on -
Just now getting a chance to read all this stuff. For some reason I can't access this site at work.. anyhow!
D-day - I am sure that cibula and todd have fill you in on how our training works... or lack there of.
I just wanted to throw another iron in the fire. You are going to have departments in the county... mine specificially that have people who WANT AND NEED to train... but because of bureacratic bull sh!t, nothing is getting done. Times are changing and so is the training... I feel that everyone is adjusting... some just A LOT slower than others. there are proactive departments and reactive departments. As people (firefighters) and leaders (officers) change... i feel that the departments will change, because they have to!
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