Whats For Training Doc?!?!?!?!?

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Permalink Reply by dday on August 7, 2009 at 9:51am

Youtube offers a wide variety of training topics...

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Permalink Reply by dday on August 7, 2009 at 10:09am

Seriously though, we train on as you know FF Survival, RIT very hard and Pump Opps, Lay in and Size Up, Hose & Hose Deployment, SCBA Confidence, Accountability, TIC, Water Movement, Auto Ext, Ladders, Venting, CAFS Opps and a few more.

I will say though I feel we are very fortunate. Meaning I have a good group of about 8 people that are all on the same page, they are great at doing all the tasks I mentioned above and presenting them on trainig nights and or perhaps even a county school here and there...

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Permalink Reply by R Griffin on August 7, 2009 at 8:47pm

if you noticed andy I removed the schedule for training off the board. Every month we have a (for real) you tube know it all junkie that will look up what the training is all about and then say that this was done here this was done there and when i was here and when I was there i did it all. Some things that I show and some things I am told how to do is from a couple HOT instructors from FDIC and fire engineering and I know I never saw these at my basic nor did the older guys from their basic or T&I. The good thing out of all this is the ones that know all this will get to prove and share the knowledge wealth with all of us when they are in charge of a training night. I would like to see departments working together max but the real deal is this- I will show MY men what they need to know and they will not learn anything new because there really is nothing new to learn in this fire service A fire is a fire and we will continue to just put it out no matter what it takes to do it. water hasn't changed and we have been putting the out this way since time began and I do not want my men to think you know more than me or you do things different from me and I don't want your POISON at MY station. I feel we need an educated experienced fire commisioner to get this county up to date and to get training together BE SAFE!!!

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Permalink Reply by R Griffin on August 8, 2009 at 1:58pm

I'm not talking about the training schedule but it gave a heads up for a person to check it out and then say they had it or did it somewhere and the way they did it was this way and that way and i did it in record breaking time and got firefighter of the year award and job offers in every city in the country but they couldn't get a white limo to pick me up to take me to the station house and I wasn't going to ride in any other color so I turned all the jobs down. getting way out of line here so BE SAFE!!!

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Permalink Reply by Big City LT Max L. on August 8, 2009 at 3:10pm

Youtybe is a tool just like everything else in this business. Take it for what its worth. My question to the youtubers wtf makes you think the people you are watching are doing it right. I can watch hours of heart surgery does it mean i can do it hell no. does it mean the guy i was watching knew what he was doing. If you dont have a clue what your doing and you watch a few clips pound it up your a$$. i was once told by (sadly i only know him as) Uncle Willie... “Training doesn't make perfect it makes permanent”. If you watch or train on x x x x x x x x x thousand times a day but the correct way was y y y y y what do you have.. your kick butt at x x x x x x x regardless of how wrong it is.
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I do hope the “real deal” isnt referring to MY department. We have always prided ourselves moving forward and training with people who want to train. The only POISON is closing the doors. I will be the first to admit i am not perfect but if my skills and knowledge are doubted as an officer put me in the game coach. I can prove and back up every bit of what my abilities are. I have no fear that i will fall short i know i wont. I am far from the best officer out there but kiss my rear that i am the worst. NAME the topic at the time training starts and ill leave my computer off . Perhaps i am cocky i dont know i believe it is all CONFIDENCE as i know i can back up every word i say. I will share what i know with anyone and everyone who would like to learn and i will gladly learn from anyone who will share with me. I think everyone knows my views on the new old thing in the fire service everything changes.

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Permalink Reply by Don Vuletic on August 11, 2009 at 11:23pm

Hey Max, There is a difference between cocky and experienced. Cocky is running your mouth and not backing it up, Experienced is expressing your opionion and backing it up. One thing us old guys pickoff pretty easy LOL

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Permalink Reply by Chris on August 13, 2009 at 3:53pm

i would love to back it up.i would love to train with other dept.'s.getting any1 to do it is the problem.no1 can be flexible.it has to be when or if they want.there is too much bad mouthing & bickering.it was old 20 yrs ago.its even older now.the bickering needs to stop.the bad mouthing needs to stop.it would be good to train with other dept's to learn the way they work & thier equip.when can that happen?we all have to keep up with the times.training & training together is how to do it.i would love too.i need to do it.lets put the ego's & bad mouthing to the side & do it.im not pointing fingers or sayin anything about any dept.they all have thier bad apples.we need to work together.the "brotherhood" seems to have disapeared.

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Permalink Reply by Don Vuletic on August 13, 2009 at 11:21pm

Its comin Chris, Rich and I talk alot more than people really think. We have been addressing problems and trying to correct other issues. I have had some problems that have taken a priority. I will not tolerate bad mouthing in my station and will address it if I here about it. Its funny how the chiefs can work together and try to make it work but some just seem to want it to continue. You will see some changes coming real soon. How long did it take when I was in Glenmoor, if you can remember it did not happen over night. If everyone follows the system that we as chiefs are working on then it will work, and I do not agree with brotherhood has disapeared. Every call I have been on we worked as a team, followed orders of the officers and it worked. Take Care my friend, and hang in there.

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Permalink Reply by Big City LT Max L. on August 13, 2009 at 10:25pm

I'm ready to prove it who needs me to step to the plate??????????? I've served under alot of good chiefs. some great some so so.. but i learned from everyone of them. Not only do i have the mouth someone who has been in a lot LESS years than me i have the skills to back it up and the vision to know 30 years of experience is only 30 years of what use to be.. it all has to come out in ballance. i know what i am made of. 20 years of what use to be and the vision to see what will be in the next 20 and not be afraid to work for change..

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Permalink Reply by BALLPEIN on August 13, 2009 at 7:30pm

I think this has worked good so far, its opened alot of peoples eyes. What better then getting ur rear busted by DDay and Griff,and all the others that help with the traning. Cuause I mean Damn Griff I dont know were the ideas come from but they are very good and just they just keep comin. DDay is a very good speaker and puts it in a way that every one can understand, plus all the other people sacrifice so much to make stuff happen. But to get together alot more would be great I think. People can take back some of what they learned. Then come time for a big class it would be huge.More importantly some thing that someone learned from another dept may safe their life or someone elses.

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Permalink Reply by Matt Smith on August 14, 2009 at 5:32pm

Hey Ballpein Griff is just Sick LOL Be Safe!

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Permalink Reply by dday on August 14, 2009 at 8:17pm

All of this talk about proving this and proving that. WTF?

Keeping up with the training demands of todays fire service is what I call stepping up to the plate. Conducting training drills, pre plans, knowing your equipment and how to use your equipment (properly), Knowing how to get yourself out of a bad situation with your FF Survival skills and conducting some RIT and MAYDAY training so OUR PEOPLE KNOW WHAT TO DO WHEN YOU KNOW WHAT HITS THE FAN. Bringing all of our people back safely and wearing proper PPE when need be in IDLH Environments. Looking out for our fellow firefighters are just a few areas to start and that in my opinion is getting our people ready to be PUT IN THE GAME.

For the people who say the brotherhood is gone..Hmmm I don't know. I think there are 2 types in this county that equal 1 in the end.We have the group (young, new and older) who want to learn and train so they can be efficient at doing the job right when called upon and 2 - the group who sticks together by the old saying "we have always done it this way" or "nothing will happen here this is XXXX out in the country" or "RIT training" "why do I need that?" Ummm hello... Last time I checked a fire doesn't discriminate...And houses are built to kill us. So we all need to be on top of our game and have the best training available to all of us... But the bottom line I don't think there is any FF out there who wouldn't watch out for there fellow firefighter when the time arrises.(no matter what their opinion is on training)

The firefighters who don't believe in the newer training, or believe in the state mandating a big whopping 18 hours a year, do discourage the ones who want to expand their knowledge and skills. The way I conduct our training no matter where I am or at is if the old group doesn't want to train F - them their actions will not stop or break the drills we are going to do. They are only hurting themselves. And in the end they will come around...The training/drill nights of the people hanging out on the back of the trucks and talking about the good old days are over.

The biggest tool in the fire service is the one attached to the inside of your head... That is it for now.

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