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So we had a very in depth discussion about this at a drill last night.

When is the best time to charge the line?
Some people say charge it at the front door, some say outside the door to the fire room, still others say once the pump operator can't see the hose team, they should charge the line.

What's everyone else's take on this?

Tags: charge, dry, wet

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Unless there are reports of victims still inside, no one goes in without a charged line.
We have no high rises, so no high rise kits.
Fire in the second story? If you can make the stairs, you are going up with a charged line.
Has anyone ever stood there with their "hose" in their hands waiting and waiting and waiting for water?
You need to know you have it BEFORE you enter IDLH atmosphere.
IMHO.
TCSS.
Art

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Couldn't agree with you more, Art. I have never seen a fire put out with a dry hoseline.

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Safety, Safety, Safety. you should never enter a structure without a charged line. It wouldn't look good if you got to the top of the steps and your there ready to advance on the fire and there is a problem and for whatever reason the operator can't get you water. Make sure you have everything you need before you enter,keeping the odds on your side.
there was an earlier comment on charging a CAFS line at the point of entry. This is true for more than one reason. One to bleed out the line and the other is to insure you have the solution you need. The same should also go for water.
I would perfer to also have a second line deployed and charged for safety

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Our SOP is to deploy the line off the truck and charge it ASAP.

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charge before in the building and check water pressure and steam setting and bleed the line of air

we never enter a building without a charged line sop on our dept

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Steam setting? That's a new one on me. Could you explain?

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I'm guessing that was supposed to be 'stream' not 'steam'

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yea sorry stream

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Charge at door.

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From my experience if the fire is limited to a floor then wait to charge until you get to that floor. Downside is you have to have comms with the op or else if he charges when your out of sight you might not be ready yet and be dealing with spaghetti on the 3rd floor.

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My captain told me when I was first assigned to drive his truck, "Give me two minutes find the fire and then charge the line." That's fine and good if the fire is not yet visible, but who's to say the fire wont meet you at the front door? In that case the line should probably be charged then. Its common knowledge that dry hose is easier to advance than charged hose. Keeping that in mind, get with your crew or the people you work with before hand and discuss it. Find out what you're going to do before the incident and stick with it.

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Bottom line charge it when the crew asks for it. different conditions dictate when the crew will want it charged

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