when to charge the line

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Permalink Reply by Dennis Brown on November 25, 2008 at 7:08pm

Well we call for it unless we dont have commo with pumper then its out of sight water in flight this works well when you have a three man team so the back guy tells when water is near the nob

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Permalink Reply by Paul Burley on November 25, 2008 at 7:10pm

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charge it at the front door, 2 of our brothers were badly burned in a flashover that occured 2 minutes after arrival.... I'd rather hump some heavier hose than get caught short were the fecal matter hits the rotating osscilator......

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Permalink Reply by Firegal77 on December 2, 2008 at 5:33pm

My sentiments exactly! Cheers

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Permalink Reply by FETC on November 25, 2008 at 7:21pm

Adam,

Where are you taking the line? This drives your answer my friend. Do you have a fire in the attic in a 2.5 story wood frame? Good luck humping that charged line upstairs with only 3.

Now if the first floor is on fire... then yes, I expect my guys to flake and charge the line it in the yard to advance and attack.

Rule of thumb, charging a line before entering (or) advancing to the fire floor is a good rule of thumb but you must train everyone to understand the concept and be ready to listen for the call of water...

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Permalink Reply by Firegal77 on December 2, 2008 at 5:35pm

good point

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Permalink Reply by rfdjumper on November 25, 2008 at 8:27pm

I know this has been discussed before, but since I can't find the thread I'll respond.

In my department it is very common to take a dry hose to the door of the compartment on fire ,then call for water. Everything depends on conditions found upon arrival.

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Permalink Reply by Firedog on November 25, 2008 at 8:35pm

Let me ask another version of this question . An old firefighter told our VFD group that since we all do not have radios ,if we lay a 5" supply line out of site ( say around the corner) the person on the hydrant should wait 3 minutes and then charge the line . I have never heard of this tactic, operation and I have worked in this job for 30 years can anyone comment on this instruction?

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Permalink Reply by Firegal77 on December 2, 2008 at 5:37pm

sounds dangerous to me!! Maybe try positioning someone in sight of the hydrant and the pump operator...they can signal the ok...just a thought

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Permalink Reply by Rich Repas on December 6, 2008 at 8:21am

Our SOP's state to blow the airhorn twice as a signal to the hydrant man regaurdless of a radio or not.

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Permalink Reply by Jdeangelis2452 on December 8, 2008 at 9:16am

what happens if your inside just waiting and the room flashes over.. Just think by the time you arive and then add the 3 mins of wait time your in prime time for a flashover

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Permalink Reply by Allen on January 4, 2009 at 9:27am

Why would anyone go in with out a Radio? This to me has BAD written all over it. At out dept, there is no way anyone goes in with out a radio and they leave their accountibility tag with IC.

But that is just my dept. Every department has their own way of doing things, but if its my butt going in, you bet i will have a radio.

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Permalink Reply by Adam Box on January 4, 2009 at 10:29am

Everyone has a radio going in on my departments too, but that's not to say that there are never "technical difficulties." Some departments only give one radio per team. If the one radio given to the hose team fails, you don't want them sitting without water.

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