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Permalink Reply by Sara Linnemann on October 25, 2009 at 3:52am

I noticed that LOTS of fire departments rarely do training they need then when it comes to an actual fire or medical, they just stand there with their thumb up their butts or do everything wrong. Im not saying all do it, but i do know a department that just starts their trucks and talk then leave.

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Permalink Reply by kenneth whidden on October 25, 2009 at 7:59am

training is a big part of our job but keeping your self informed and in shape is are job money is tight in a lot of depts so share info when possible and remember your academy training help out your ic with suggestions or watch and see how you can help be safe

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Permalink Reply by greg on October 25, 2009 at 6:37pm

I have been a firm believer in the fact that you dont always have to spend big bucks to train. I was a former member of an emergency services agency and we was required to put on trainning for our county. We at times would have tabletop disscussions and planning to get dept. chiefs and ect. to think. On the fire side we would look at different situations and look at weak areas that needed preplan tactics to lesson effects . so on and so on. I am also a firm believer that it takes an effort to train, by this I mean you must be willing to do it as well as the rest of your depts. personel. Leadership plays the big roll here. Many dept sadly are lacking in this area!
G.

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Permalink Reply by greg on October 25, 2009 at 6:29pm

I know the type, I can only say that the ones that dont train fall short and only put themselves and the rest of us in harms way. Its good to know how to start a truck, but if you cant use it you might as well get in your p.v. and bring coffee and hot dogs to the wennie roast......
G.

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Permalink Reply by Tom Wheland on October 25, 2009 at 7:30am

Like I always say EVERYONE should practice the basics every now and then. It never hurts to refresh.

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Permalink Reply by greg on October 25, 2009 at 6:43pm

I was always taught BASICS first. Then you build upon what you know. We must walk then run . This is how to drive the engine and this is how you use whats on it. Why would anyone want to jump ahead and throw somebody into something they are unprepared for because they lack the basics? It can and will get people killed in the fire service!
G.

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Permalink Reply by Trainer on October 25, 2009 at 11:14am

A GREAT instructor once told me..."traing is repetive and boring"

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Permalink Reply by Trainer on October 25, 2009 at 12:23pm

OK...OK "training is repetitive and boring”

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Permalink Reply by greg on October 25, 2009 at 6:47pm

However boring it is very important. A great instructor once told me. When you run out of air and cant get out of a structure because you are out of shape and havent practiced S.C.B.A. drills, then you will wish you had taken the time to train, yet then sadly its to late!!!
G.

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Permalink Reply by greg on October 25, 2009 at 6:55pm

What a quote it is. I know some so called trainning officers that I think I will email that one to. Maybe they will look at things a little differently then?? I could only hope!
G.

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Permalink Reply by Trainer on October 26, 2009 at 6:17am

Greg, I didn't mean that as a bad thing; guy's get to whining about what we are doining and want somthing different, as refered to above "latest and greatest" Always makes me think about that quote.

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Permalink Reply by greg on October 26, 2009 at 7:19pm

Understand, no bad thing. I know our brothers and sisters are lookingfor something to hold there attention in regards to training. I can say I do also. Lets face it boring is boring, but at times required. Yes I am stuck on the "you must train" stance. I also am a firm beleiver that 100% compliance in training is at times impossible. The fact is though training makes a difference and promotes the service, individuals and the community. It saves lives and property. It also gives us a chance to be in the company of some of the greatest people on this earth and get to know our brothers and sisters better. I feel that its a win win for all of us and I dont take offense to anyones comments. This is a place for all of us to voice ourselves and I would hope that everybody does so,for me its another leaning experience. I also enjoy the different points of views on so many subjects. Thanks
G.

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