NIMS 300 & 400 Classes

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Permalink Reply by Oldman on February 24, 2009 at 12:01pm

Here are a couple of links for the current schedules in Texas.

http://texasforestservice.tamu.edu/uploadedfiles/frp/fy-09_ics-cour...

http://www.fireworld.com/conference/conference.php

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Permalink Reply by Fireyladd Chief Sharp on February 24, 2009 at 12:30pm

This seems to be the same issue across the country. Sad when you put it into perspective. Most of us were using ICS since its beginnings in the late 60's. Federal Gov decides lets give it a new name and require everyone to learn new acronyms and tie it to federal funding. What a novel idea. Be interesting to see if indeed he Federal Gov has even met this requirement and how many.

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Permalink Reply by John on February 24, 2009 at 1:53pm

Mkaes you wonder if they are NIMS compliant.

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Permalink Reply by Captain Busy on February 24, 2009 at 2:07pm

Does this mean that we will all be calling a water truck a tender and an airplane that carry's and drops water a tanker? Standardized ICS terminology vs. NIMS... West coast vs. East coast... Is this possible?

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Permalink Reply by Antonio A on February 24, 2009 at 1:26pm

It is on your government website, see the following link

http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/Training/

If you are in state it should not cost you anything

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Permalink Reply by jonathan on February 24, 2009 at 1:48pm

heres a queston to this day i have never understood why they require us to take nims i mean whats the point in it

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Permalink Reply by Lt. Caleb French on February 24, 2009 at 1:58pm

Jonathan,
NIMS and ICS gets everyone on the same page nationwide when it comes to command structure and chain of command. If everyone is doing everything the same way, it is easier to work with each other. So that way if another Katrina, or God forbid, another 9-11, we aren't all fighting against each other in time of need.

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Permalink Reply by Lt. Caleb French on February 24, 2009 at 2:01pm

Copy and pasted from Wikipedia for NIMS.

The National Incident Management System (NIMS) is a structured framework used nationwide for both governmental and nongovermental agencies to respond to natural disasters and or terrorist attacks at the local, state, and federal levels of government. (Hogan & Burstein, 2007)

The system's development was instigated on February 28, 2003 by President George W. Bush, who in Homeland Security Presidential Directive (HSPD)-5, Management of Domestic Incidents directed the Secretary of Homeland Security to develop and administer the system. [1] After the proposed system went through a period of vetting and coordination among federal agencies, NIMS was released by Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge on March 1, 2004.[2]

The 2003 presidential directive required all federal agencies to adopt the NIMS and to use it in their individual domestic incident management and emergency prevention, preparedness, response, recovery and mitigation programs and activities. The directive also required Federal departments to make adoption of NIMS by State, tribal, and local organizations a condition for Federal preparedness assistance beginning in Fiscal Year 2005. In addition, all State, tribal, and local emergency personnel with a direct role in emergency preparedness, incident management or response were to have completed NIMS training by October 1, 2005. After the directive was adopted, all State, tribal and local personnel with any role in emergency response were given until October 1, 2006 to complete training for NIMS compliance.

Here is the link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Incident_Management_System

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Permalink Reply by Lt. Caleb French on February 24, 2009 at 2:04pm

Also copied and pasted from Wiki on the ICS criteria.

The Incident Command System (ICS) is a standardized, on-scene, all-hazard incident management concept in the United States. It is a management protocol originally designed for emergency management agencies and later federalized. ICS is based upon a flexible, scalable response organization providing a common framework within which people can work together effectively. These people may be drawn from multiple agencies that do not routinely work together, and ICS is designed to give standard response and operation procedures to reduce the problems and potential for miscommunication on such incidents. ICS has been summarized as a "first-on-scene" structure, where the first responder of a scene has charge of the scene until the incident has been declared resolved, a superior-ranking responder arrives on scene and seizes command, or the Incident Commander appoints another individual Incident Commander.

Link ------> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incident_Command_System

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Permalink Reply by Captain Busy on February 24, 2009 at 2:09pm

ahhh young Caleb, but does the terminology jive?

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Permalink Reply by Lt. Caleb French on February 24, 2009 at 2:13pm

Heck, I don't know, Busy : ) Seems to make sense to me : )

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Permalink Reply by Antonio A on February 24, 2009 at 1:57pm

The intent of NIMS is that everyone in an incident is on the same page, while 100 and 200 is very basic and DUUHHH kind of stuff, there are a lot of other things that NIMS brings to the table, to me, it all made more sense once I took 300 and 400 because the exercises involve large scale incidents and not just every day fire incidents. It shows how people from different organizations and departments can work with more ease if they are all on the same page and terminology. In our 300 and 400 class we ended up organizing a Katrina size incident from scratch.
I agree it is a bit much when you think of a house fire or a medical emergency but when the incident becomes town, city and state wide and involves people from across the country it is good to have everyone use the same language and terms so they know what their job, expectations and report structures are.
Last but not least I must say, from a teachers perspective 100, 200 and 700 are horrible dry and boring and it really does not help that the people in class don't really want to be there.

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