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should juniors be allowed to ride ambulance and have patient contact. a junior can see something bad on an MVA but should they help treat it. EMS had more physcological damage then fire, should juniors be allowed to do ems too. if yes, why and what good comes of it, if no why not?

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NO

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why?

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Are you old enough to be a registered EMT or Paramedic in your state? I'm going to assume the answer is no. That in turn answers your question. Sorry Ryan, but keep at it, your time will come.

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so do you think that explorers post that have ambulances should let them observe atleast?

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It depends, some things you may see can really wear on the psyche, really mess with your head. I've had many sleepless nights and nightmares. And that's even more impressionable on a younger mind.

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ive had rides in both fire trucks and ems trucks since i was 16 , im 20 now and still going strong , i think it depends on the person

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sorry man as much as i want to say yes its not the fact of you can handle it but more of all the legalities of it if you say somthing you can cost us our license and if somthing happens and the pt dies and it goes to court YOU CAN STILL GO TO JAIL even if you didnt know any better

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No, its too much of a liability to the department. If something were to happen ( God forbid) then the question will be asked " why was a junior firefighter there?" Your time will come when you can ride, just hang in there.

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I would have to say NO. When you are dealing with patients hands on in an ems capicity you need to be a certified emt or paramedic. I am not either of those, but I do have medical training as all firefighters do. Having said that I would not get in the ambulance to assist with a patient unless it was absolutely necessary. There are too many variables and things that can go wrong.

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my state has an apprentice license, which means you can have patient contact but not be a provider. so the 3rd person. does your dept. have juniors or explorers?

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We have in the past we don't currently have any. As long as the junior or explorer is state certified and there is room for a third person. Just be very aware that you will be in a very liable position. I may be mistaken, but in Georgia I beleive that you must be at least 18 to respond to calls. Like I said though I might be mistaken.

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If your EMT cert. then sure you can be on a Ambluance. If your not, stay out. Thats are policy. There are some exceptions but 99% of the time. An explorer will only ride the Ambluance if he is EMT cert.

Thats what we do.

Explorer Captian Marc Hurwitz
Los Angeles CITY Fire Department

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