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So my department has a 4500 gallon tri-axle monster of a tanker that we have given the nickname "the whale." I want to know if anyone has anything bigger. I dont know how to upload a photo from a differant computer but if you check out my page there is a pix of it somewhere. You will notice it (the big white truck) LOL

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Wow Dustin, thats biggere than both of our tankers put together......................LOL:)

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Dustin,

We used to see alot of these around my area.... none anymore due to them being less effective than some smaller tankers (2000-3000 gallons) either single or dual axle that can traverse our rural roads, dump much faster and from 3 sides or if needed could pump off the water with a good size GPM pump. So can you tell me some of your vehicles specifications.

Pump Capacity Size?
Number of Dumps and Discharge Opening Size?
How long it takes to off load the 4500 gallons for both dumping or pumping?
How long does it take to refill 4500 gallons and what diameter is the fill piping?

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I agree. We have a few big tankers in the area but the 2000 gal tankers can run circles around the bigger ones. I am not saying the larger tankers don't have their place in some situations. In ours, having a tanker that big would really be detrimental, especially in the spring when the gravel roads are soft. We, and most of the other departments in the area, only have drop tanks that hold 2100-2200 gals. so the larger tankers are generally setting and waiting to dump longer than the smaller ones.

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We are specing a new tanker now and it is still not going to be that big if I am right. If it ends up that be we wont have any one that can drive it but maybe 2 people. Our area is very rural once we get outside the village where there are hydrants. I still think we aren't looking at that big of a tanker....

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Nope - 2500-3000 gallons. But it'll still be an upgrade over our present 1500-gallon Ranger.

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Our biggest tanker we have is a 1500 gallon Pumper/Tanker built by the Sutphen Corporation. We actually hardly ever use it as a tanker seeing that 99.5% of our area has water and the remainig .5% is getting water in the next year. We mainly use it as a first due engine for structure fires. It's kinda nice when you pull up and you have 1500 gallons to work with in the first 5 to 10 minutes.
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I asked what were the specs because this is what I was curious about. Bringing that much water takes time, special type of person who can drive a tractor-trailer and can dump or pump off slower than what the fire suppression effort demands. They are very difficult to get into a rural setting, with roads being narrow, not to mention seasonal posted roads and water supply areas that are inaccessable to refill the monster and just plain impossible to turn around.

Anyone else using these?

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You guys are absolutly right about the size of the truck making it difficult to handle. Its kinda fun to brag about having the biggest tanker in the county but when it comes down to it, most of the time were rollin the 2500 gallon that we have just because it is so much easier to handle.

Some of the specs for the whale include three dumps, one rear and two side, all discharges are 5". It can be filled on either one 5" or two 3". Ive never timed it because I think I've only had to fill it once since I've been on the department and all I can say is that it took a while LOL. Also, I've never pumped off of it, only dumped for mutual aid stucture fires and that also took a while.

It is kinda a pain when only three or four guys on the entire department can drive this beast because of its split diffarential. But it is nice when somebody calls for water and we only have to make one trip when everyone else is making three or four

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This was the only photo I found on your FFN website showing your tanersauras rex. Happy New Year!

TCSS in 2009,
Mike

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We dont use the monster tanks but I have food for thought on the seasonal road limits. The average apparatus exceeds the posted seasonal limits due to number of axles versus vehicle weight. I do agree the 2500 to 3500 is the way to go for manuverability and and safety reasons. We have 2 2000 gallon single axle tenders. I have driven a 3500 gallon tandem axle and prefer the smaller units anyday.

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2004 KME 6 man cab, 2500 gallons water. 2000 GPM pump, 3 remote 10" dumps, 3000 gallon porta tank.

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sweet

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