Vehicle Extrication- Armored Car (Brinks, etc.).

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Permalink Reply by firechief911 on August 27, 2008 at 8:30pm

how about a prisoner van with a cage inside and 7 prisoners cuffed and shakled

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Permalink Reply by firechief911 on August 27, 2008 at 8:32pm

that was quite a challenge

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Permalink Reply by FF Schoen on August 28, 2008 at 3:11pm

Wow,
That had to be quite the challenge as you said firechief. Did you have any problems with cutting apart the roof section where it was attached to the hardened posts and metal cage area?

Thanks,

FF Schoen
God Bless and Never Forget

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Permalink Reply by firechief911 on August 28, 2008 at 7:43pm

it opened like a can just had to make about 12 cuts to fold it open. amkus did the job we got five out alive. the 2 on the rear seat didnt make when it end over ended the rear hit once

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Permalink Reply by rfdjumper on August 27, 2008 at 9:17pm

I've never had any experience but that sure is a good question. I'd call your local bomb squad to see if shape charges would work with out killing the occupants.

Just an Idea.

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Permalink Reply by Brian D. on August 28, 2008 at 12:31pm

Vehicle extrication using explosives? What could possibly go wrong? LOL

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Permalink Reply by Kenneth Holley on August 28, 2008 at 2:06pm

I don't think you will have any luck with the car company. That would be like telling people how to break into their vehicles. I have heard that if they get into any problems they call their dispatch and they take it from there.

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Permalink Reply by Brian D. on August 28, 2008 at 2:54pm

Thanks Ed, that was a great article! Lots of good information. I still may contact the armored car company and see if they can add anything. I'd love to get an obsolete vehicle to practice on, that'd be one heck of an extrication drill!

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Permalink Reply by T.J. on August 28, 2008 at 7:49pm

WOW, Brian just when I've thought my department has trained and worked on every type of vehicle we could imagine, you come up with this, this is a great topic, keep us informed on what you find out:)

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Permalink Reply by lutan1 on August 28, 2008 at 8:10pm

On that "other" fire website, I was invovled in some discussions and did some research on these vehicles and posted it into the forums (now archived) but still accessible here-
http://forums.firehouse.com/archive/index.php/t-19589.html

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Permalink Reply by Brian D. on August 28, 2008 at 10:01pm

Thanks Lutan, that was a very informative thread from that other site. The only part I didn't agree with was the part about the guards inside shooting at the rescuers. I would hope that if we responded to an armored car extrication, that the knuckleheads inside would have the good judgement not to shoot us! I'd love to get some real hands on training though. I'm just afraid that the armored car company will be too paranoid to help me. Thanks again, Lutan! Stay safe!

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Permalink Reply by Oldman on August 29, 2008 at 6:23pm

Brian, you must consider that if the guards in the truck have sustained head injuries, they might not be capable of "good judgment" or rational thinking.

Our department did make an incident with an armored car on it's side about 3 years ago. Minor injuries, driver out of vehicle. The guard in the back was conscious and alert, but was not going to let us inside until her supervisor arrived. She has a gun, I don't... no problem. We waited until the supervisor arrived and unlocked the door.

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